December 15, 2007

Desert Trash:  Illegal Immigrants’ Impact on the Environment
By Rosa P. Oakes

 

Driving toward the U.S. – Mexican border in the wee hours of the morning there is a cool breeze coming in through the window.  We stop at an isolated convenience store on state highway 86 to get coffee, gum, and sunflower seeds for the road.  The sun starts to come up and rapidly the (JPEG 1) heat of the day ahead bears down on us.  The two-lane road winds, dips and rises through the Organ Pipe National Monument.  Terrain densely populated with towering saguaro cactus, they block the rising sun in the distance and flash past resembling a strobe light.  Taking in the scenery as we speed to our beach destination, abruptly the sight of a Border Patrol tower intrudes on the landscape.  Several hundred yards beyond as we crest the next ridge our driver hits the brakes.  We take in the sight of a group of people lined up along the side of the road surrounded by a multitude of Border Patrol agents and several vans and SUV’s parked in disarray on the pavement and in the ditch. 

 

Immigration, whether authorized or unauthorized, has occurred throughout the world from the beginning of time and will most likely continue for all ages; a fact of life presently contributing to the deterioration of various desert life forms.  Specifically, the southwestern Arizona desert lays claim to a great number of immigrants who cross the border illegally on foot or hidden in vehicles with a “coyote ” at the helm as they head north.  Until recent years, one could travel into the desert to explore the extensive varieties of flora and fauna indigenous to the area without ever encountering another soul or any remnant signaling the proximity of a nearby civilization.  On the whole, it has remained an untouched (JPEG 2) no-mans land.  However, gradual indicators of illicit activity have emerged in areas considered to be corridors of illegal immigrant movement.  Causing great concern for fragile ecosystems, the immense amount of debris left behind by veiled travelers evading capture is a huge detriment and comes at a high cost to the region

One wouldn’t consider a desert to be anything other than dry barren land that, in essence, is useless wasteland.  Why would anyone care what happens to it?  Yet, I can say with great pride that the Sonoran Desert is a distinctly beautiful place that exhibits great character.  A region that, in fact, encompasses 120,000 square miles in southwestern Arizona, southeastern California, as well as most of Baja California and the western half of the state of Sonora, Mexico, it is a vast desert that consists of diverse ecosystems. 

Nogales, Tucson, and Phoenix Arizona seem to be experiencing the brunt of illegal immigration.  Encompassing around 2,000 species of plants, including the federally protected saguaro cactus which is primarily found in Southern Arizona; the Saguaro National Park is largely the area affected by the substantial number of unauthorized immigrants traveling on foot across this territory. 

Unlike most deserts, the Southern Arizona desert receives heavy rainfall during the monsoon season; rainfall which causes normally dry-river beds to swell and surge over the banks.  Although the rain is quickly absorbed by the parched, cracked earth as if it were a dry sponge, it provides incredible relief from the heat and almost magically enhances desert vistas.  Immediately, one recognizes the power of life in the rain, not to mention the awesome displays of rainbows produced by the same.

Since the ringing-in of the new millennium, a forty percent increase in unauthorized immigration, particular to the southwestern border, has severely impacted the ecology, not to mention the economy in the region.  Most notably, statistics show that over the past thirty years, illegal immigration has escalated from roughly 180,000 unauthorized entries per year in 1980 to about 850,000 per year since 2000 .  The significant rise in illegal immigration in recent years has caused great controversy and contempt as the burden of medical and education assistance has taxed existing programs causing everyday citizens to take notice.

Contemplating and analyzing what has caused the shift since 2000, clearly there is increased desperation of many to make them wander the perils of the desert landscape.  One must observe that their motivation to enter illegally is essentially two-fold.  Acknowledging that no one human being should be barred from aspiring to excel in life, migrants are typically seekers of personal improvement.  In that sense they should be congratulated.  On the other hand, the United States has been touted as “the land of opportunity,” and notwithstanding immense legal barriers imposed for immigrants, for those too poor to pay and wait their turn it figures to be the best possible option.  Certainly, deteriorating and brutal living conditions in third world countries are prime contributors to illegal immigration as well.  Nevertheless, a large number of those making the ruthless journey have ulterior motives such as drug and people trafficking.

In retrospect, immigrants of the past have had similar visions as their inspiration to start anew in this land.  Driven by devastating conditions in their homelands at the beginning of the twentieth century, impoverished immigrants who lacked much education arrived in droves from European countries to fill hard labor employment vacancies.  Similarly, the pools of illegal immigrants presently arriving across the Mexican border are largely employed in hard labor type work due to their lack of education and proper work visas.  On the whole, immigrants in the past demonstrated love and respect for their new surroundings.  Concern for the environment and use of the land, to the extent that they recognized and reaped the benefits of the land, were integrated into daily life.  Conversely, today’s immigrants crossing on foot demonstrate some disregard for the paths that bring them here.

Back in the days when it was acceptable to employ illegal immigrants for low paying, back-breaking jobs, they came by the multitudes.  The era met illegal immigrants with jobs, company housing, albeit accommodations barely adequate for their large families; nevertheless, hardly any contempt.  At once, they learned how to meld into their new world and, though they were inclined to seek out their own “people,” they learned to tolerate other races and ideals.  Having experienced similarly corrupt governments, food and land troubles, illegal immigrants recognized the value of hard labor.  In that aspect, life has not greatly changed.

In order to minimally understand the behaviors of those who enter illegally through the United States – Mexican border, it is important to get a glimpse of cultural attitudes.  Since the majority of immigrants are from Latin America, poor, and have little to no education, they share many common ideologies.  The way of life in Latin American countries differs considerably from life in the U.S.  General populations must endure bureaucratic powers on almost every level of daily living.  The lack of existing public programs, protection for the disadvantaged, or even the concept of customer services forces people to fend for themselves.  People who, otherwise, have decent morals and values and work very hard to earn a living whilst trying to support a family learn of possibilities that may ease their burden.  A large number of young men are willing to accept any job and frequently travel from town to town offering to work in the direst conditions for paltry wages.  “Prices kept rising, and all families, mestizos and Indian, Mexican and illegal, Protestant, Catholic, or heathen, were able to afford less and less.  Food was harder to come by: forget about telephones, clothes, cars, furniture.  Even chicken feed, being maíz, was expensivePampers, milk, baby formula, shoes, tuition, tools, and medicine (Urrea, 2004, p. 44).”  Illegal immigrants see only one way out.

Impervious to the obstacles in their way, illegal immigrants push forward in their journey to discovering the destination they heard so much about in the homeland.  For most, it is a necessity to continue surviving that drives them to battle the elements of the harsh desert, for returning home is not an option.  Desperation is the impetus that causes many to engage in unspeakable acts, legal or illegal, in order to risk obtaining a very distant and blurry dream.  Sometimes alone, and sometimes with families, most illegal immigrants expose themselves not only to the unsympathetic terrain and weather, but also to the unscrupulous, ugly underworld.  The underworld offers no allowances for impecuniosity, disability, gender, age, or family groups.  Consequently, otherwise respectable people turn to drugs which are readily available among traveling criminal groups.

Indisputably, immigration without proper authorization is wrong regardless of mitigating circumstances.  Even more reprehensible is the flagrant disposal of waste found indiscriminately strewn in many parts of the Arizona desert. 

At a glance, the desert scenery in Southern Arizona is entrancing with its abundance of towering cactus, Joshua trees, flowering cactus varieties, colorful wildflowers, and rock formations.  Upon closer inspection, the desert reveals the damage inflicted on it by careless passers-by.  Of course, some litter can be attributed to reckless hikers or random visitors.  Still, other types of environmental damage can be blamed on livestock or wild animals; however, the most striking evidence of damage is the scattering of leftovers concentrated in areas under mesquite trees, creosote bushes, or dry-river beds commonly referred to “lay-up areas.”

Text Box: Picture provided by Minutemen Civil Defense Corp Webpage.      The “nesting” that occurs in the desert under the cover of native plant life is similar to family groups of nesting apes in the jungle.  Undiscovered, the immigrants move on to the next area, as if guided by some sort of GPS system, they know exactly where to find respite.  It is not uncommon for United States Border Patrols to encounter large groups of unauthorized immigrants gathered to rest, exchange information and stay out of sight.  On the move like nomads, they leave behind what is no longer useful to them, or what has become too cumbersome to carry.  What will it take to convey the negative effects of their negligence on the environment?  Akin to other concessions made by our government, perhaps, it may be appropriate to install waste receptacles and translated notices regarding the consequences of littering in the desert.

A long list of items, including abandoned vehicles, can be attributed to illegal immigrant groups traversing the desert.  Items such as used needles, drug paraphernalia, plastic grocery bags, paper products, empty water containers, blankets, clothing, used disposable diapers, among other things.  The heaps of litter long forgotten by those forging ahead come at a great cost to those who must bear the responsibility of cleaning it up.  Sadly, the affects on the environment cannot, so easily, be repaired.  Indeed, it is as much unnerving to acknowledge that such harm to our amazing desert ecology comes by such despair to survive.  Hence, in killing the desert environment, illegal immigrants are finding life.

Much of the land that meets the official border is owned privately.  Extensive parcels belong to ranchers who own immense herds of livestock.  Accustomed to allowing their herds to roam freely, ranchers are abruptly finding the need to build and reinforce fences around their properties.  One might think that fences are erected in such unforgiving remoteness in an effort to deter wild animals from invading and disturbing livestock, though surprisingly, one learns that the fences are in place to deter humans from entering and polluting the vast landscape, thus, harming livestock as well as wild animal life that dwell in the region.

Meanwhile, the Minutemen of Arizona are working hard to impede the traffic of illegal immigrants.  As a corps of concerned citizens who have organized to be the eyes and ears of the government, they have taken steps to engage in securing the border, albeit with some questionable tactics.  Where the government has demonstrated its shortcomings, the Minutemen have bridged the gap by providing their own funding to build and reinforce the border fences.  Controversially, citizens have voiced concerns about the vigor with which the Minutemen operate.  A sensitive subject to be sure, legal immigrants question the Minutemen’s authority to apply the law bearing arms.  The volatile atmosphere in the region where piles of debris are often discovered signifying the continued trespassing of illegal immigrants is distressing to all on both sides of the border. 

The United States Government is scrambling to find a suitable solution to the escalating problem while attempting to remain on good terms with foreign governments.  Already the Mexican President has opposed the construction of a border fence that could potentially harm a delicate ecosystem in an area that straddles both countries. 

Given that illegal immigration is a problem on many levels and that its effects are substantially bigger in some areas, it is imperative that the Arizona desert landscape not be overlooked.  To see it may make one imagine an enormous garbage can spilled over from another country.

While there was a day when one could count on the peacefulness and beauty of the desert, that day appears to have come and gone.  Alas, elementary school field trips to explore and learn about desert habitats in the real desert have been replaced by trips to museums.  The exhilaration of a child encountering the true inhabitants of the desert such as roadrunners, scorpions, lizards and the like is almost as extinct as the freedom to cross the border without demonstrating every last piece of identification and, perhaps, leaving behind some form of collateral.
Illegal immigration into the U.S. through the Mexico border has, indeed, escalated significantly in the past twenty years causing increasing controversy and contempt.  The “land of opportunity” appears to summon anyone desperate enough to take their chances.  Nuvia Recinos and her family didn’t seem to have a choice and, although they made it from so far away alive, she still bears the emotional scars of the trek.  In essence, obligation drives them; “what was it her kind always said – I love my country deeply and I am heartbroken at having to leave.” (Gordimer, 1974, p.71)  They must do what they have to.  Where is justice and who makes the rules?  “Stripped of ethical rationalizations and philosophical pretensions, a crime is anything that a group in power chooses to prohibit (Freda Adler).”  If they must leave their country through no fault of their own, but the miserable luck of being born where and how they were, it is only to reach for something that may or may not be there.  They are inspired by hearsay and when there is nothing left, they embark on a journey toward a vision; never-mind that the boy leading the way is a con man.  Why, the smuggler promises to take them to utopia.

Although it is riskier to lead large groups, the coyotes make more money and all too often make good on their promise to deliver their charges across the border into the Arizona desert.  The illegals wonder how much further to utopia only to find out they’ve already crossed into it.  The true journey has only just begun as they weave and backtrack without direction.  “The dirt . . . gathered ahead or behind, rolling up its surface into a great charge of dust coming at them; . . .and then they were whipped into turmoil, it lashed round them a furry tongue of fiery soft dust spitting stinging chips of stone.” (Gordimer, 1974, p.86)
An immense challenge, the topography of the Arizona desert is as steep as it is flat and the day is as hot as the night is cold.  Cadavers clearly tell their stories when they are found lying naked next to a pile of meticulously folded clothes.  Unable to bear the weight or feel of the clothing on their backs, one expects to find the remains of haphazardly abandoned personal belongings somewhere along the path of staggered footprints.  Nearly impossible for anyone to make it across the vast desert alive, illegal immigrants wind their way, confused and evermore focused on surviving, they begin to shed – first anything they have to hold onto, then anything they have strapped to their body.  Over time, walking, resting, and walking again in the unbearable heat; no matter what time of day or night, things get heavier and heavier.  Discarded items start to accumulate in marked “lay-up” areas.



According to the Western Apache, “The land is always stalking people.  The land makes people live right.  The land looks after us.  The land looks after people.”  Among the Apache, short stories of people who suffered hardships such as illness and death in the wake of reckless behavior to the ecosystem are shared and passed down (Abrams, 1996, p.156).

Despite stereotypes (e.g. young people, p oorly educated, poor self-image, disrespectful, lazy, careless, or dirty) of people who randomly dump garbage, research shows that there are other more prevalent factors, some of which may bear true with illegal immigrants.  Taking into account the mental state of someone who has been walking in the desert for days without food or water, it is conceivable that the environmental effects of littering are not a concern.  According to the Environmental Protection Agency, other, more common factors are: litter has already accumulated – the more litter present the more people are inclined to litter; lack of social pressure to do the right thing; absence of penalties or consistent enforcement; availability of receptacles; sense of pride or connection in the areas they are littering; or, the item is not considered litter such as cigarette butts.  "Increasingly, the world around us looks as if we hated it (Alan Watts)."
On the other hand, those who clean-up after others are likely to have a positive attitude about life; they have knowledge and awareness about the environment; and, a sense of community and concern for others.  Though, some people would like to make a statement by dumping garbage, this doesn’t appear to be the case with illegal immigrants.  Environmental effects of littering in the desert are serious and include the indirect effect of water quality; death to livestock, wild animals, and plant life; blocked waterways and flooding; and, fire hazards among other things.  The cost of clean-up to private land owners and local governments is staggering.  A common theme that frequently arises during illegal immigrant interviews is that they have made the journey because they desperately wanted to fulfill their family’s dreams of owning their own home.   However, "What's the use of a fine house if you haven't got a tolerable planet to put it on (Henry David Thoreau)?"

As in anything relevant to human beings, everyone has the answers, everyone takes their own side; hear it and everyone makes sense in their own twisted way.  All the right answers abound, and yet hardly an attainable resolution exists.  The government’s biggest and brightest minds are at work volleying ideas back and forth with no serious action taking place.  Clearly, illegal immigration at the U.S. – Mexico border is the problem, but what do those two words imply?  Try to dissect it and one begins to see the enormity of it.  Like a bowl of Grape Nuts cereal, it keeps growing until one can no longer grasp the sheer size.  It soon becomes evident that the “problem” is in fact many problems.  When politicians address the problem, which part of it do they address?  Is the state of the physical border the prevailing issue, the class and number of human beings entering, or the impact on the environment more pressing?  Will resolving one, resolve the others?

Appearing as if the whole cause has been neglected for far too long, it has taken some serious breaches of homeland security to trigger awareness; however slight.  Nevertheless, following the noise made by the Minutemen beginning in 2004, there were talks about reinforcing the border fence and augmenting Border Patrol forces.  Though, it would seem a step forward in the right direction, due to budget constraints, it has not come to fruition.  Until recently, pictures and stories of the, largely overlooked, Arizona desert environment have emerged.  Parts of the desert are exhibiting incredibly blatant destruction.  While the ecosystem would benefit, by default, from certain changes made to the physical border, it is imperative that the environmental impact of illegal immigration be addressed directly.  According to the Devil’s Highway, “The Tohono O’Odham reservation began to see an astounding number of humans moving through their deserts.  The Organ Pipe Cactus Nat’l Monument began to wither under two hundred thousand walkers passing through every year (Urrea, 2004).”  If the federal government is not taking action as it relates to federal lands such as the Tohono O’Odham reservation, what can be expected for other largely affected regions? 

The Minutemen Project makes a good point in calling citizens to action; “Ninety percent [of the solution] is driving this issue up the halls of Congress.  It must come from the U.S. Senate, the House of Representatives, city mayors, city councils, state governors, grass roots tax-payers, up to Congress through our congressional representatives and that’s where it will be solved (J. Gilchrist, personal communication, November 7, 2007).”  Notwithstanding the fallout that, typically, surfaces from rogue ideas such as those stemming from the Minutemen Project’s demand for citizen’s to guard the border, their organization exhibits sound fundamentals and pragmatism.

In the meantime, a more feasible, sound, and prompt solution relevant to the destruction of the environment would be to hold illegal immigrants responsible by requiring those who are captured and are slated for deportation to serve a minimum sentence of “litter duty” in the desert.  In light of the fact that locals are burdened with the cost of desert clean-up, the cost would be significantly reduced by enlisting illegal immigrants to serve as laborers.  Furthermore, fees normally paid for labor, would be put toward the cost of supplies and transportation, thus, alleviating the heavy burden to citizens, local governments, private companies, and above all the desert environment.  Indeed, the impact of such a punishment for breaking the law would send a message to anyone planning on entering the country illegally; that deportation now comes at a price as did the entering with a coyote, thereby, causing illegal immigrants to intensely contemplate future attempts to enter without authorization.  Moreover, this plan would appease legal citizens as well as local governments who, in general, bear the frustration of dealing with the same illegal immigrants entering the country time and time again, often within hours of being deported. 

Some might argue that imposing a sentence on illegal aliens that requires them to serve on “desert trash duty,” would allow the deportee’s the opportunity to attempt an escape into the desert, consequently complicating matters.  While many scenarios are possible in allowing illegal aliens “free roam,” to a limited extent, the program stands to be successful if it is thoroughly planned, supervised, and maintained.  In addition, certain constituents could be opposed to spending public money on a program that, essentially, supports illegal aliens while they are in the country serving a sentence.  Although providing shelter, food and uniforms to those serving would be a necessary part of the program, the grueling elements of the work to be done and the benefits to the desert ecosystem would more than outweigh the cost.  On the other hand, the challenging clean-up work in the desert is already coming at a high cost to the government as they provide public employees to do the work of removing huge amounts of waste and abandoned vehicles.




Obviously, a rather complex combination of issues as those described do not present a clear resolution at first glance.  Nevertheless, approaching each matter separately can result in manageable parts which can be resolved individually and, perhaps, affect one another.  Clearly, each issue is as grand as the next which will require a great deal of funding, manpower, direction, and commitment put forth by government officials, community organizations, and laypeople alike.  Our deserts, like our rainforests, also deserve our attention – sooner rather than later. 

 


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Appendix A

Nuvia Recinos interview
Transcript taken November 2, 2007

                        “To hear a story told and retold in one’s childhood, and to recount that tale in turn when one has earned the right to do so (now inflected by the patterns of one’s own experience and the rhythms of one’s own voice), is to actively preserve the coherence of one’s culture (Abram, 1996, p.181).”

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Nuvia Recinos, a petite woman with bright green eyes and lots of freckles, traveled with relatives from their home in El Salvador eluding the horrors of the civil war in that country.  She described the details of what she could remember about that fateful journey, though it appears that she has mentally blocked much of what happened.  During the interview Nuvia became rather upset, specifically when I asked her what she had been feeling during the long walk.  Visibly disturbed by the feelings emerging, she continued to talk and stated that she kept thinking about her mother and wondered why things had happened so fast. 

Interview:  November 1, 2007
Name/Age:  Nuvia Recinos/37 years old
Location:  Restaurant for lunch
Conducted in Spanish & English
Questions:

  1. Where are you from originally?  San Salvador, El Salvador
  1. When did your family leave El Salvador?  It was during the winter of 1980.

 

  1. How old were you?  I was 10 years old.
  1. Describe the situation that caused your family to leave your home.  I only remember the war.  Everywhere we went in the city, there were soldiers with guns.  We would see dead bodies and dismembered body parts piled high on the grounds of the cemetery; it was just part of life.  My parents began to plan an escape to the United States because my brother had just turned thirteen years of age and they feared that the soldiers would kidnap him to serve in the military.  Young boys were being taken by force from their homes at any time of the day or night.

 

  1. What was the plan of escape?  My parents had sold all of our household belonging and paid a coyote to take us to the United States.
  1. Besides you and your parents, who else would be making the journey? It was a family group, my brother (13 years), two younger sisters (ages 7 and 4), five young cousins, and two uncles.

 

  1. How did you prepare for the journey?  We didn’t have time to prepare.  Two weeks before the trip my parents were on a motorbike which was hit by a large truck full of soldiers that purposely veered to hit them.  My mother was killed instantly.
  1. Were you able to give her a proper burial?  Yes.  We buried her and climbed on a bus headed toward Guatemala. 

 

  1. What did your father tell you about where you were going?  He just said that we were going to a place called “Los Angeles,” and that we would have a much better life there.  Of course, we believed him.
  1. What happened when you reached the border to Guatemala?  I don’t remember much detail, but I remember that we kept changing from bus to bus – the coyote leading the way.

 

  1.  When you reached the U.S. border, what happened? We stepped off of the bus and were handed potato sacks to sleep on and to fend off the winter chill.  Then we started walking.
  1.  How long did you walk?  We walked for three days and nights.

 

  1.  Did you have food and water with you?  We carried some snacks and some water, though I remember being very hungry, and my feet hurt badly.
  1.  How did the little ones walk that far?  My father carried my little sister much of the way.  There were actually three groups with three coyotes and we would separate for long periods of time.

 

  1.  How did you get out of the desert?  On the third day, the coyote observed a helicopter headed our way and he suddenly left us.  The Border Patrol surrounded us in their vehicles.
  1.  Were you scared? No, my father gathered us around him and I’ll never forget what he said, “Thank God they caught us in the United States!”  Because any other country would send us back without question.

 

  1.  What happened next? The Border Patrol arrested my father and put him in jail.  My brother was sent to a boys home and my sisters and I were sent to a Foster home together.  That is when we became scared.
  1. How long were you in the Foster home?  We changed Foster homes twice in the span of about three months. 

 

  1. Were you reunited with your family after three months?  My father was released from jail and immediately applied for political asylum.  The asylum was granted and we moved into a cramped apartment with the others.  We were enrolled in school and the older relatives found work.

Nuvia gave some indication that she had been sexually assaulted by a relative on the journey north and, again, became quite emotional.  We wrapped-up the interview at that point.  She stated that she would be willing to follow-up with me as she recalled other details.


Appendix B

Interview with Jim Gilchrist, Author and Founder of the Minutemen Project
Transcript taken November 7, 2007

  1. Does the Minuteman Project consider environmental decay to be a serious consequence of illegal immigration?   Yeah.  (stopped to clarify the distinction between the Minutemen Project and the Minutemen Civil Defense Corps (MCDC) (Also, mentioned a segment on this topic on the Anderson Cooper 360 show).  My opinion is that, what we have there is a global dumping ground.  On that 1,960 mile border, the landscape is alternating desert highlands, forests, and mountain ranges.  It’s a pretty neat looking place until you get right down on the border and the lay-up areas where the illegal aliens come through.  The way I remember it is just scattered piles of non-biodegradable trash littering both sides of the border.  You find plastic jugs, glass bottles, clothing, backpacks, tires, rusted cans, and skeletal remains of vehicles that were abandoned.  It’s just really ugly, and it’s everywhere – hundreds of millions of pounds of trash, rubbish, most of it non-biodegradable.  My opinion is that it is a literal public dump for millions of pounds of rubbish discarded by this endless exodus of migrants coming north!
  2. Have you personally observed the harm brought to the environment – not only by the garbage, but by the trampling of plant life?  Yes.  It’s a patchwork of old trails that are etched out over a decade by foot traffic coming over that border through the raw lands.  It’s a network of ground-pounded vegetation.  As far as what’s happening to animal life, I don’t know – there are still coyotes, rabbits, squirrels, and birds.  In my opinion, most of the damage is occurring to the vegetation.  I could be wrong, maybe some kind “Arizona horned toad” is dying off because of it, I don’t know.
  3. Are you aware of any other types of environmental destruction caused by illegal immigrants crossing the desert on foot?  (wildfires and such)  From time to time there have been fires, but they have been on both sides of the border – I cannot say that they are started by illegal immigrants.  In California, we had eighteen fires here three weeks ago; two of them are known to have been started by illegal aliens.  Maybe there were more than that, but only two were confirmed.  I would say there’s that chance because you’re burning to generate heat at night, the nights do get cold.  Minutemen are not lighting fires to my knowledge; they generally are prepared to withstand the cold inside their vehicles.  As I recall, when we had our missions on the border, we had a ban against fires.  We did have a couple of people at one time start a fire and they were immediately dismissed as volunteers.  They were cocky and wouldn’t admit that they were wrong. 
  4. Does the Minuteman Project speak to environmental concerns in their many calls to action?   Yes, but not so much as we speak to the enforcement of immigration laws.  We feel that we can cure two problems by inoculating one.  If we were to cure the literal lack of immigration law enforcement, we would cure the environmental problem.
  5. Has the impact on the desert been noticed by the government?  It seems not.  It seems to be ignored.  Minutemen groups, for years, have been complaining to government trying to bring awareness to them – that we have a border that’s literally being trashed.  We would legislate that out of existence if it occurred in our federal parks.  Why are we ignoring the Tohono O’Odham Reservation?  That is federal territory. It seems to fall on deaf ears just like the immigration problem.  Anything related to illegal immigration seems to be blanketed with the same response, “we don’t want to go there,” or “don’t ask, don’t tell.”  An almost condescending and arrogant response by public officials.  The truth is I’m really angry and tired of it!  I’m tired of them pretending that there is no problem!  Why are the Sierra Club and similar groups, who are facing these problems, not raising national awareness to the border carnage – the extinction of vegetation, animal life, and waterways?  We challenge them and feel they won’t take it on because they’re too “wimpish,” or cowards, no different than politicians who don’t want to talk about the illegal alien invasion.  The Sierra Club officers don’t seem to want to talk about the environmental carnage caused by illegal aliens because they’re gutless little wimps.
  6. You stated that the Minutemen Project is very different from the Minutemen Civil Defense Corps….  Somewhat different.  We do engage in, and conduct border operations.  In addition, we feel that border operations are only ten percent of the cure.  In the beginning, I knew it would draw one hundred percent of the media frenzy and literally launch the public awareness that I wanted and that’s why I did it.  We had twelve hundred volunteers down there; rugged American individualists came down there for thirty days.  It was phenomenal!  It was the largest Minutemen assembly since the revolutionary war – I knew it would be a trendsetter with the media.  But that’s passé, now the more adventuresome spirits, men, women and children want to come to the border – it’s attracted their interest.  Go to the border, get on an observation post, you don’t confront anyone, you get on the cell phone or ham radio and talk to the Border Patrol to tell them what you see.  Again, this is only ten percent of the solution.  Ninety percent is driving this issue up the halls of Congress.  It must come from the U.S. Senate, the House of Representatives, city mayors, city councils, state governors, grass roots tax-payers, up to Congress through our congressional representatives and that’s where it will be solved.  Because, we can do nothing when you have a lethargic congress, predominately a U.S. Senate of which ninety-eight of the one hundred senators have given hardly any attention to this issue.  Only two senators, Sen. Jeff Sessions (Republican, Alabama) and Sen. Byron Dorgan (Democrat, North Dakota) are the only two senators, that I’m aware of, who have tried to stop this illegal alien invasion.  Unless we convince the senate, we are not going to have a cure.  The panacea is literally convincing Congress that we must enforce immigration laws.  What’s the point of having laws if they’re not enforced?
  7. Have you personally gone before Congress?  No, I’ve spoken to the congressional immigration caucus, about twelve members, about two years ago.  I’ve spoken to Steve King and Tom Tancredo and have been on talk shows pleading with our governors to deal with this issue rather than turning a blind eye or deaf ear to it.
  8. Has Tom Tancredo broached the subject with his colleagues?  Oh yes.  Tom Tancredo (Republican, CO) is the literal political pioneer on this issue.  Actually, Tancredo is the reason I launched the Minutemen Project.  I had little confidence that I could do something like this until I heard Tancredo on a talk show talking very confidently about immigration laws.  I realized that there is support out there; there are political governors out there who want this problem addressed – I’m gonna address it!  The plan was to bring an unprecedented awareness to this issue, once and for all, to literally force the debate!  It worked beyond my wildest dreams!  The recruiting process took about six months before we launched anything in the Arizona desert.  I started on October 1, 2004 by e-mail; I didn’t even have a web site.  I e-mailed for three weeks until my brother created a web site for me.  I sent a three page recruiting e-mail to twenty-four people and asked them to forward it, within seven days the e-mail had hit over 400,000 in-boxes.  Five weeks later I was called to make a television appearance on Hannity and Colmes.  Since then, Talk Radio has carried the fire on this subject from coast to coast.  As a former newspaper journalist myself, I must admit that the worst performers are the print media.  I was disappointed by them, but somewhat expected their response. 
  9. You are out of California.  Is your mission now primarily in California?  No, it’s national.  We have contacts in every state.  We encourage people to start their own chapter and they can use our name and logo.   We don’t care what they call themselves, as long as they get involved and get in the face of their mayors, city council members, and businesses that contribute to this twenty-first century slave-trade.
  10. Have you traveled the length of the border to gauge its strengths and weaknesses?  I’ve been from California through to half of Arizona and about a third of Texas, from Laredo to El Paso.  I have not been to New Mexico, for whatever reason the problem doesn’t seem to be as threatening there.  Arizona and Texas are the states that have the most traffic of illegal aliens.  For the length of the border in Arizona, they get about fifty percent of illegal alien traffic.  I believe the Rio Grande is a hindrance along the Texas border, whereas, California is not as accessible to Mexico’s mainland. 
  11. Do you know if the areas suffering from the garbage dumping are primarily in Arizona?  They are all over, though, I’ve seen most of it in Arizona.  I’ve seen similar areas in California and Texas.  Arizona seems to have the worst traffic through it. 
  12. Do you share MCDCs idea of a reinforced fence?  I share the idea of a government funded, U.S. Treasury paid, border wall.  I do not share the idea of MCDC soliciting public donors to pay for seventy miles of fence that will be on private property strictly benefiting private property owners.  The fundraisers keep a large percentage of the donated money while a small percentage actually goes toward building supplies.  I would rather see one hundred percent of government money used to build the entire wall, excluding any middle man who will become rich in the fundraising process.  Donors tend to be naïve and unaware that the majority of their donation will go to the fundraiser and not the fence.  That’s my big beef, economically it’s ridiculous.  They’re basically engaging in gouging a naïve donor base.
  13. Beyond the government funded border wall and manpower to guard it, how else can you guard 2,000 miles around the clock?  Some areas of the Rio Grande are too dangerous to cross, of course with power boats anyone can cross, but there would be less foot traffic.  I would suggest a lot of roving patrols in unprotected or unwalled areas.  I don’t think they will wall the entire 2,000 miles, perhaps, half of it.  Along California, Arizona, and New Mexico you’re going to need a wall.  The Rio Grande river makes a natural barrier, most of the time.  However, due to having a wall installed in the other three states, you’ll start seeing people cross the river into Texas at any cost on inner-tubes, rafts, and even power boats.  Therefore, I say wall the entire 2,000 miles and triple the amount of Border Patrol from 12,000 to 36,000 boots on the ground and do not reduce that amount of manpower.  Add 2,000 more professional investigators and prosecuting attorneys to the Department of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to pursue illegal alien slave-traders and employers of illegal aliens, and really hit them hard such as the DEA and IRS do to drug smugglers and tax evaders.  Start to confiscate property and impose tax liens similar to how DEA works; they do not hesitate to take it all.  The process of seizing property seems to truly impact people and at the same time the funds collected from seized properties is used to finance the program.
  14. What about illegal aliens who apply for asylum to stay in the country, should there be stricter guidelines?  Anyone can come here.  Many think that they can just go in and say “I need political asylum,” and that the judge will grant it.  It just doesn’t work that way.  I’d like to think that our judges are not that naïve.  Some people use it as a crutch to buy them some time and prevent them from being deported.  They receive their hearing date, and then simply vanish into society.  I think it should be very difficult for someone to receive asylum, unless it is a legitimate political asylum.  I don’t think someone fleeing as an economic refugee should be considered a political refugee.  I don’t see a reason why someone from Mexico, or even Central America could be considered for political asylum.  If someone is fleeing because they are a felon or wanted in any way by their country, they should not be allowed to stay.
  15. Many illegal aliens arrive legally by VISA and stay beyond their permission date.   How would we find those people to have them deported?  I’m not for rounding people up and shipping them back on airplanes or trains to their homelands.  I am for making it so difficult to subsist here that it defies their goal of coming here and staying.  That they realize it would be better to return to their homeland and fight for representation there (similar to what people do in the U.S.) even if it means they have to start a revolution.  As we have seen over history, that some nations need a revolution, hopefully a bloodless one, before there can be change.  I am for searching out wanted and confirmed felons, albeit, anyone who enters illegally or overstays their VISA is a criminal, but those who have committed crimes beyond being illegally here, should be sought out at any cost.  Conduct random audits on employers to weed out their illegal employees.  There should be a system that flags illegal aliens when they apply for any type of benefit or program such as hospitals, medical care, schools, driver’s license or I.D.  Some of this is drastic, but they should stand in line in their homeland with an application for permission to enter the U.S. legally just like the thousands of immigrants who have entered legally before them.  Anything less, would be to invite, at will, the entire 6.6 billion world populace into the United States and we know where that would lead.
  16. How do we deal with the coyotes (human smugglers)?  If they are caught in the United States they should get five years in prison with no parole.  They should receive a heavy fine and take everything they’ve got.  Treat them almost as severely as drug smugglers.  When the word gets out about the severity of the penalty for smuggling people into the U.S., it should act as a deterrent, and I think we’ll see a decrease in the problem.  In addition, the harsh penalties will involve more risk for any one smuggler, thus, causing only the most brazen of them to continue in that line of work.  Though crime will always exist, we can at least try to nip it in the bud.
  17. How many members does the Minutemen Project currently have?  The Minuteman Project does not have an official membership.  It is more of a trend that is now worldwide.  I receive inquiries for information from around the world.  We have independent chapters and encourage people to start them or join them to help gain attention and force.
  18. Do the Minutemen carry arms?  Depending on the state, some do.  Mostly, retired law enforcement people who usually carry a concealed weapons permit.
  19. Do Minutemen apprehend people?  No, they observe and report.  They are in constant radio or phone contact with the Border Patrol and when they spot something or someone, they call it in.  Border Patrol agents usually respond quickly either by helicopter or vehicle.  Minutemen are instructed to stay as far away from illegal aliens as possible without losing sight of them.  They are not to have either physical or verbal contact with them.  It’s similar to a giant neighborhood watch.  However, if there is a life-threatening situation that requires action before Border Patrol agents arrive, action should be taken to give medical assistance.
  20. Since you started the Minutemen Project, has your position on illegal immigration ever wavered?  No.  Strict enforcement of immigration law and the enactment of new laws or, at least, a precise interpretation by the U.S. Congress of the Fourteenth Amendment to specifically exclude from citizenship anyone who is born of illegal aliens in U.S. territory.  They will not specifically state that and I think there should be an amendment to the Fourteenth Amendment by a congressional act.  Another alternative is to have the Supreme Court hear a case on this issue and specifically find that just because you are born here, you are not a citizen if your parents are illegal aliens.

 

A smuggler who brings illegal immigrants into the United States (slang).

Illegal Immigration to the United States: Causes and Policy Solutions

Drug Enforcement Agency and Internal Revenue Service.